Development and Updates for the Medeek Truss Plugin

Started by Medeek, November 07, 2015, 03:06:39 AM

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Medeek

I've got the plywood material working quite well in the plugin, and the ability to toggle between it and OSB in the global settings.  I have a few more other features and edits and then maybe I will role a revision tomorrow or Sunday.



I actually like the plywood look much better than the OSB.
Nathaniel P. Wilkerson, P.E.

Medeek

OSB or Plywood will now be an option for the floor sheathing:



The new sheathing tab in the global settings:



As time goes on I will probably add in more options for wall cladding and interior wall cladding (ie. gypsum) as well as the ceiling logic I discussed in a previous post.

I'm now working on the gable end wall sheathing option and the roof cladding option.

There are also two new options in the "General" tab which allow one to toggle the default setting for gable end trusses and advanced options (roof, floor etc...).
Nathaniel P. Wilkerson, P.E.

Medeek

Version 1.8.0- 01.22.2017
- Enabled roof cladding for common trusses.
- Added nine "IKO Cambridge" architectural shingle colors into the roof cladding material library.
- Added "plywood" material for roof and floor sheathing.
- Added a "Sheathing" tab into the global settings.
- Added entries in the "General" tab of the global settings to toggle default settings for gable end trusses and advanced options.



View model here:

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=408cd4f0-26b0-416f-bcd0-c14e5565c97a

Initially I was just going to texture the exterior face of the sheathing for the roof cladding but then I realized that there may be cases where there is roof cladding but not sheathing or vice versa.  In the end I went with a separate layer, material and extrusion for the roof cladding, this allows one to get more granular with the structure and in my mind closer to reality. 
Nathaniel P. Wilkerson, P.E.

Medeek

Thinking about sheathing and cladding advanced option for the valley truss set.  Typically the valley truss set is placed on top of the main roof sheathing:



View model here:

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=c8b9995c-1649-4f2a-a769-9fdb685d0913

If I create the sheathing and cladding just right then it will be easy for the user to manually trim the secondary roof sheathing and cladding with my trim tool and then optionally union them up with the built in Union tool.  I may need to make a video showing exactly how to perform this task.
Nathaniel P. Wilkerson, P.E.

Medeek

The valley truss set now has sheathing and cladding added as an option.  You still have to manually trim the secondary roof's sheathing and cladding and then union it to the valley set's but with the trim tool this is very simple to do:



View model here:

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=164baabf-f312-42b5-a1a9-97e7d8557dcf
Nathaniel P. Wilkerson, P.E.

Medeek

Nathaniel P. Wilkerson, P.E.

Medeek

Call me crazy but I want to build something like this on my 10 acres so I can see all the way to the beach.



Given my wind speed (155mph ult.) and seismic zone (D2) I am probably looking at some serious holdowns at the first level (HDU 11).  I would have to run the numbers but it would probably work.  I would probably also sheath it with 5/8" plywood inside and out for some serious shearwall action, at least on the the first two floors.  I would probably also frame the first two floor with DF No.2 2x8 studs or 2x6 studs at 12" o/c.  I'm thinking spiral staircases between levels to save as much floor space as possible and to make it more interesting.  Minimal windows on the first three levels and then the top level would have a lot of windows for the view.  11-7/8 TJI 210 for the floors with 3/4 sheathing T&G, 16" o/c. 

The structure is 16'x16' with grade to top plate height of 38'8".

The roof is 6:12 pyramid hip with 2x8 rafters, I may go with a steeper pitch though.

On a structure like this overturning is a serious threat, I would need to check the dead weight of the structure and see if the seismic or wind forces could potentially lift the foundation right out of the ground.  The solution is to increase the dead weight of the structure especially at the base, by upsizing the footing and stemwall.  You will notice my stemwall is 10" thick, 36" deep and a 24"x12" footing, even this may not be enough.

Anyone design something goofy like this before.  I don't know if my county building dept. would give it an approval though even if its engineered (stamped).
Nathaniel P. Wilkerson, P.E.

Medeek

Since I have now have roof cladding enabled I figured it only made sense to have some sort of wall cladding enabled for the gable end walls:



The advanced options now allow one to specify wall cladding, the settings can be adjusted in the "sheathing" tab of the global settings.  I currently only have 4 different colors of Hardiplank Siding but I will add more as requested and I can find textures that I like or create.  It should also be noted that it isn't too hard to swap out the texture for the user's custom textures.

I'm also thinking about adding an option for an air gap between the wall sheathing and the wall cladding in the case that someone wants to use brick as their cladding option.  For standard veneer brick in the US the air gap is usually 1" if my recollection is correct.

I will try to roll these latest additions into a new revision here shortly.
Nathaniel P. Wilkerson, P.E.

Medeek

Version 1.8.1 - 01.29.2017
- Enabled gable wall cladding for common trusses.
- Added four "HARDIPLANK Cedarmill" siding colors into the wall cladding material library.
- Enabled sheathing and cladding for valley truss sets.
Nathaniel P. Wilkerson, P.E.

Medeek

Here is a simple structure created with the Truss and Foundation Plugins along with Housebuilder:



I like Housebuilder but I really feel like I need to develop my own Wall Plugin since it will tie in better with my Truss Plugin and allow the user to create the different sheathing and cladding options on the same layers.

Creation of the foundation and roof both took less than 30 seconds to create.  The walls, windows and doors did require manual editing.  I also realized that it would be useful to allow the option for wrapping the floor framing in wall sheathing and cladding so that this can be unioned with the appropriate sheathing and cladding on the walls above.  I will add this into the Todo list.
Nathaniel P. Wilkerson, P.E.

MichaelC

Thanks for the fantastic plugin (Truss). If you developed a wall tool that worked in tandem with the foundation and truss packages, that would be fantastic (Id buy that...).
I use ProfileBuilder2 to give my components a cost value (you can add multiple cost attributes to an object such as material cost, labor, accessories, management, etc.), and with Medeek Truss I can tag and rename the components in the truss set accordingly. I can then export a component report to create a detailed estimate.
If a wall tool with headers and beams was available, similar to HouseBuilder but more like Medeek Truss, that would be great.
Thanks again for a great plugin; I look daily for updates!

Medeek

Can you also assign a cost value to groups as well as components?  I am curious how you are doing this with ProfileBuilder2.  Is there anything with the Truss Plugin that I should do differently to make it easier to integrate with ProfileBuilder2?

I am seriously considering starting on the Wall Plugin.  I've realized that the new sheathing and cladding options I've added in recently need a similar Wall Plugin to mesh with.  Housebuilder is pretty good but doesn't quite do enough in my opinion.  It need more advanced options.  I also would like to see better treatment of the wall framing at corners, I think a lot can be done in this regard.
Nathaniel P. Wilkerson, P.E.

MichaelC

The main attribute of ProfileBuilder2 was to allow you to 'extrude' shapes like for crown molding. As it advanced, the ability to add components to the extrusion was added such as posts and pickets at whatever interval is specified. Basically Housebuilder does the same thing by placing a stud at a specified interval and height.

The addition of a pricing component is something that I am taking full advantage of, as I can either price a layer (so if something is extruded on a layer it lets me pick how to price it...volume, surface area, etc. It also allows pricing of material, so the roofing surface of your truss could be priced by giving that particular material(s) a square foot or square price. If you group something and name it (component) then you price the item. If you group several things and click on the group, you can easily give that 'thing' a price (or many prices) but it 'names' it such as 'Group#252'. If you print out a report it's better to name the group 'Skylight #2' so you know what it is.

This is the first video I watched that got me hooked, so I purchased and am using daily...



And this one shows how you can isolate groups of materials for framing, possibly exactly what Medeek could integrage



Michael


Medeek

So far I have not really had the opportunity to use my own plugin on a real job, other than some minor conceptual structural models. 

Last night I had the opportunity to model a garage/office as part of a real world study for a building design.



This further re-emphasized how much I need to put together my own Wall Plugin, something I might seriously wade into this weekend.

View model here:

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=0241721f-e85e-4d72-9245-9488a99d3e13

Its 25Mb because of the vehicles I inserted from the 3D Warehouse, it would be nice to have more lightweight test vehicles to use as space fillers and sizers, does anyone have any suggestions?
Nathaniel P. Wilkerson, P.E.

Medeek

The 18.5' highbay/garage only needs to be 16' in height and the 2nd floor of the office space needs 9 ft ceilings:



https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=cb53d8ed-8174-4cb1-a4cb-f2cff60679ff

Note the valley truss set, and how I was able to easily tie these two roofs together.  For simple roof lines I'm pretty happy with what the plugin can do.
Nathaniel P. Wilkerson, P.E.